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Post by Von Widdler on Jul 22, 2019 23:19:46 GMT
I just noticed that we didn't have a Renaissance section on the forum, so created this one. Quick question, could someone tell me how we are basing figures for the Italian Wars?
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Post by dandare on Jul 23, 2019 11:01:05 GMT
Mine are on 40mm squares- 4 inf or 2 cavalry.
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Post by meliadus on Jul 23, 2019 18:16:13 GMT
Same as Don's that the size's that the game suggests
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Post by Zhao Zilong on Jul 23, 2019 21:56:53 GMT
Am I right in saying the rules don't cover the Italian Wars themselves, but are for the mercenary wars in the first half of the 1400s?
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Post by Von Widdler on Jul 23, 2019 23:10:00 GMT
Thanks for that.
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Post by dandare on Jul 24, 2019 8:36:03 GMT
I don't think so- they are fairly generic, and do include lists for earlier armies. There are "Schwarze Reiter" in the lists, which are generally later than the Italian wars
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Post by dandare on Jul 24, 2019 8:41:38 GMT
It just says "Renaissance Mercenary Warfare" on the front
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Post by meliadus on Jul 24, 2019 11:44:14 GMT
No they are aimed at the italian wars Alan, they give you a list and history of famous Condottieri. The forward is all about the Condottieri.
Brian could you bring the rules down on Sunday?
Don there was rieters used in the Italian wars.
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Post by dandare on Jul 24, 2019 14:39:42 GMT
Possibly near the end, as the Italian Wars were from 1494 to 1559 approx.
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Post by Zhao Zilong on Jul 24, 2019 15:46:37 GMT
Most of the famous Condottieri don't actually fight in the Italian Wars, Hawkwood had been dead 100 years before they started.
Is there a list for the French 'Regular' Army?
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Post by dandare on Jul 24, 2019 17:43:52 GMT
Lucky I'm Bartolomeo Colleone then..... Yes-- there is a French army
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Post by Zhao Zilong on Jul 24, 2019 18:17:10 GMT
He was only dead 20 years before the Italian Wars started...
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Post by meliadus on Jul 24, 2019 19:28:05 GMT
My character, Giovanni Dalle, was around the early 1500's
The reiters would have appeared about the same time as the mercenery landsnechts appeared at this time they would have been a lot different from what we think, main weapon was a boar spear and pistol.
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Post by meliadus on Jul 24, 2019 19:30:18 GMT
There is 2 frnch armies if i mind rightly, one that is takened from the italain wars listing and a seperate one for the period, same as there's an english army a burgundian and I think a scot one as well, these are armies which are outside the italain wars, but same period of it.
On a seperate note a bit about Giovanni.
Giovanni became a condottiero, or mercenary military captain, in the employ of Pope Leo X (Giovanni di Lorenzo de' Medici) and on March 5, 1516 led the war against Francesco Maria I della Rovere, Duke of Urbino. He thenceforth formed a company of his own, mounted on light horses and specializing in fast but devastating skirmishing tactics and ambushes. In 1520 he defeated several rebel barons in the Marche. The following year Leo X allied with Emperor Charles V against King Francis I of France to regain Milan, Parma and Piacenza; Giovanni was called in under the command of Prospero Colonna, defeating the French at Vaprio d'Adda in November.
As a symbol of mourning for the death of Pope Leo X (1 December 1521), Giovanni added black stripes to his insignia, whence comes his nickname, Giovanni dalle Bande Nere (or Giovanni of the Black Bands). In August 1523 he was hired by the Imperial army, and in January 1524 he defeated the French and the Swiss at Caprino Bergamasco. In the same year another Medici, Giulio di Giuliano, became Pope, and took the name of Clement VII. The new Pope paid all of Giovanni's debt, but in exchange ordered him to switch to the French side of the ongoing conflict. He did not take part in the battle of Pavia, but was soon severely wounded in a skirmish and later had to move to Venice to recuperate from his wounds.
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Post by Zhao Zilong on Jul 24, 2019 20:40:34 GMT
To be fair there was English and Scottish armies in the Italian Wars - technically Flodden was a battle of the Italian Wars.
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