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Post by Jangles on Feb 24, 2020 13:52:56 GMT
The Ardennes Counteroffensive
After the success of the recent big ACW game, it was suggested we tried the same format for WW2.
For those who weren't there on Sunday last, the Union and Confederate teams were split further into their own HQ Command and Field Command, who were separated in the room. By passing messages and orders, HQ Command dealt with the bigger picture of reinforcements and troop orders, while Field Command had to win the battles with what they were given. This was across multiple tables separated on a map, much like my previous games. HQ Command were unable to see the gaming tables and had to rely on whiteboard maps to keep track of the action.
I am happy to organise some rules and maps to keep the game simple enough to play in our 3 hour window. However, what scale should we use?
I own a fair amount of 15mm Flames of War Germans, but I hear we might have much more in the 20mm or 28mm range?
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Post by dandare on Feb 25, 2020 10:30:56 GMT
Much, much more in 20mm!
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Post by Von Widdler on Feb 25, 2020 11:46:42 GMT
Do we have enough Yanks and Germans in 20mm?
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Post by Zhao Zilong on Feb 25, 2020 13:19:28 GMT
I sold most of my Second World War stuff in 20mm, and a good amount of the 15mm so don't really have either anymore
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Post by dandare on Feb 25, 2020 15:10:03 GMT
Ted has a load of Yanks, which have never seen the light...... I have a few American vehicles as well. Cameron can supply the Germans, I imagine.......
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Post by Von Widdler on Feb 25, 2020 15:32:04 GMT
So, I've just found out my dad has a load of 15mm late war Germans. I believe Bob has a decent volume of yanks in 15mm.
I'm happy to do whatever scale gives us the biggest game! I have some Germans in 20mm, I think a Panzergrenadier battalion, and assorted tanks and guns.
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Post by DeVille on Feb 26, 2020 20:24:36 GMT
I can supply US and germans in 15mm if needed. the US are french 2nd armour and germans are 12 SS plus 101 tigers.
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Post by meliadus on Feb 27, 2020 12:09:14 GMT
Got a shed load of yanks and brits in 15mm also think Dave has late war germas as well
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Post by Jangles on Feb 28, 2020 12:46:30 GMT
It's sounding like 15mm is the way to go.
I'll start designing the game and see just how many bases would be viable.
Thanks folks!
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Post by Jangles on Mar 6, 2020 11:23:21 GMT
At first glance, here are the two army lists required for this game. I can, and probably will, smudge things around to fit the figures we have but here is something for people to compare against. To keep the game moving swiftly, and to keep the action at a high strategic level, the forces available are simplified to: Infantry, Tanks (Medium, Heavy, Destroyer), Flak. This will give the game a more board game feel but at least allows us to put everything we own out and fight the whole battle. Each base represents a brigade, making a collection of ~4 bases a Division, with on average 4-6 Divisions in a Corps. Each side has three armies present individually made up of around 3 Corps. The AlliesInfantry: 82 American, 27 British Tanks: 33 American, 4 British Tank Destroyers: 43 American The AxisHeavy Tank: 3 Medium Tanks: 14 Infantry: 74 Flak: 12 I own 44 bases of German infantry which can cover a good bulk of the forces. I think between Cameron and I we can also supply the tanks, though unlikely their true historical representations (which is irrelevant for our game anyway). Please if you can, list what you can bring to the table so I can fix the lists as needed. I have the maps ready and I am working on the rules.
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Post by Von Widdler on Mar 6, 2020 16:13:46 GMT
I take it its 15s Anton?
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Post by dandare on Mar 7, 2020 0:01:42 GMT
Should that not be 6th Guards Armoured brigade? Equipped with Churchills
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Post by dgp1957 on Mar 7, 2020 0:44:25 GMT
Anton I have the following in 15mm 10 MK4 6 tigers 5 panthers 3 half-tracks 4 half-tracks with rocket launchers. 3 puma armoured cars 3 flak nests 3 Pak 40's 4 schwimwagens 21 infantry based including command bases.
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Post by meliadus on Mar 7, 2020 14:00:53 GMT
11 half tracks 2 flak half tracks 12 inf bases 2 morter bases 10 bazooka bases 2 37mm at 4 50 cal bases 6 30 cal bases 4 105's arty battery 2 recon jeeps 6 pershings 4 m12 long toms 4 m7 arty 3 m8 Scott assault guns 5 m3a1 4 m10 td 5 shermans 4 easy 8's 4 jumbo's 1 thunderbolt.
Plus various command stands that go wi said units.
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Post by DeVille on Mar 7, 2020 20:09:55 GMT
If required I have:-
3 M5 Sheridans 4 Shermans 2 M10 Tank destroyers 1 Scott 2 AT guns various jeeps/halftracks/Armoured cars and inf.
4 Pz4 skirt armour 3 Panthers 2 Tiger 1s 2 Jagdpanzer 4 L70 2 PaK 40 various kubelwagons/halftracks/Armoured cars and inf.
If anything is required, I will get them up to Greenock.
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